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framework are things that we can all agree on, and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter in the joint select committee, and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and outline he's got an obligation to send one to the congress and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we're ready and eager to talk to the president and work with him to make sure that the american people aren't disadvantaged by what's happening here in washington. >> good morning. you know i think at this point pretty much most folks in the country and certainly in this town know where both sides are on taxes. i think we understand that. to the speaker's point, we have not had any discussion in any specifics with this president about the real problem which is spending. we have got to do something about the spending, and an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. what w
framework are things that we can all agree on, and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter in the joint select committee, and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and outline he's got an obligation to send one to the congress and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far they couldn't pass either house of...
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as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad base, including vice president biden, who's done terrific job in his capacity as second in command, but we also have a lot of governors, a lot of diversity, duval patrick, and governor cuomo. now you have senator-elect elizabeth warren that might be considered presidential timber. i don't want to throw all our eggs in one basket, because there's wonderful of people -- martin o'malley, the governor of colorado. there are so many people, like the republicans, there will be a large field of candidates, but no question if secretary of state hillary clinton decided to throw her gloves into the race, game on. >> she's got a lot of competition. >> oh, absolutely. >> david, do you think the republican party will have the strongest field it's had in maybe a generation next time around? >> i thought actually 2008 frgs the strongest field the republican party has had in a long time. i think we'll see a lot of recruitment from governors. it was spectacular to see rubio and ryan on the stage. they are very popular with washington elite. they str
as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad base, including vice president biden, who's done terrific job in his capacity as second in command, but we also have a lot of governors, a lot of diversity, duval patrick, and governor cuomo. now you have senator-elect elizabeth warren that might be considered presidential timber. i don't want to throw all our eggs in one basket, because there's wonderful of people -- martin o'malley, the governor of colorado. there are so many people,...
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joe biden? too old? >> andrew cuomo. >> governor of maryland, martin o'malley. all those people in nation themselves as potential -- >> will they really challenge celebrate? there is -- challenge hillary? >> there is a pattern of challenging miller, as demonstrated by the only man since dwight, barack obama. >> did you get a commission of for that? >> i want to share it with you, charles. >> see you next week. >> "inside washington" is brought to you in part by the american federation of government employees, proud to make america work. for more information about afge and membership, visit afge.org. assa ccy do you remember what you did with your last cell phone? in the us alone there are over 500 million cell phones laying around ready to be recycled. what happens to all these old chargers and cell phones? unfortunatel y, many of them are thrown away. cell phones contain lead, mercury, arsenic and other poisons. these toxic chemicals can find their way into our water supply when they're thrown into landfills - and pollute our air when they're incinerated. right
joe biden? too old? >> andrew cuomo. >> governor of maryland, martin o'malley. all those people in nation themselves as potential -- >> will they really challenge celebrate? there is -- challenge hillary? >> there is a pattern of challenging miller, as demonstrated by the only man since dwight, barack obama. >> did you get a commission of for that? >> i want to share it with you, charles. >> see you next week. >> "inside washington" is...
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joe biden? too old? >> andrew cuomo. >> governor of maryland, martin o'malley. all those people in nation themselves as potential -- >> will they really challenge celebrate? there is -- challenge hillary? >> there is a pattern of challenging miller, as demonstrated by the only man since dwight eisenhower to win 50% of the vote or more, barack obama. >> did you get a commission of for that? >> i want to share it with you, charles. >> see you next week. >> "inside washington" is brought to you in part by the american federation of government employees, proud to make america work. for more information about afge and membership, visit afge.org. assa >>> from washington, the mclaughlin group, the american original. for over three decades, the
joe biden? too old? >> andrew cuomo. >> governor of maryland, martin o'malley. all those people in nation themselves as potential -- >> will they really challenge celebrate? there is -- challenge hillary? >> there is a pattern of challenging miller, as demonstrated by the only man since dwight eisenhower to win 50% of the vote or more, barack obama. >> did you get a commission of for that? >> i want to share it with you, charles. >> see you next week....
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. >> the army-navy game in philadelphia, joe biden on hand for the game. second quarter, army's trent steelman keeps it on the option and scores. that ties it at 7-7. army led 13-10 but here when the missed, keenan reynolds breaks free and scores giving navy a 17-13 lead. army on the navy 14-yard line trying for the winning score but the handoff is botched. navy recovers and the mids come away with a 17-13 victory to capture the commander-in-chief trophy. i'm greg toland. have a great sunday. >> a check of the seven-day forecast, temperatures hovering around 50 throughout the entire day. rain is in the forecast even for the big game at fedexfield so people need to wear rain gear. maybe thunderstorms monday evening but warm, mid 60's and cooling into the 40's and thankfully now i can try it. >> that's the finished product there. good job. >> thank you. these are all for the station. >> the crew will be descending soon. you said you prefer to do it like this because it's easier, you can cut them up. >> it's easier, stick it in the oven, 20 to 25 minutes on 3
. >> the army-navy game in philadelphia, joe biden on hand for the game. second quarter, army's trent steelman keeps it on the option and scores. that ties it at 7-7. army led 13-10 but here when the missed, keenan reynolds breaks free and scores giving navy a 17-13 lead. army on the navy 14-yard line trying for the winning score but the handoff is botched. navy recovers and the mids come away with a 17-13 victory to capture the commander-in-chief trophy. i'm greg toland. have a great...
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but in arlington, virginia, vice president biden said today's jobs report shows the economy is turning a corner, so it's critical to get a deal. >> there is a sense... there is a sense that if we can reach an- - act like adults and reach an agreement here on the fiscal cliff, the upside is much higher even than the downside is if we don't. >> sreenivasan: biden said the president is willing to consider what he called any serious offer. aides for the two sides were expected to continue talking, through the weekend. wall street was mostly higher on the news from november's jobs report. the dow jones industrial average gained 81 points to close at 13,155. the nasdaq was hurt by another sell-off in apple stock, and fell 11 points to close at 2,978. for the week, the dow gained 1%. the nasdaq lost 1%. this was another tense day across egypt, as a political crisis deepened. tonight, thousands of protesters pushed past army and police outside the presidential palace, demanding that president mohammed morsi leave office. he's assumed absolute powers and refuses to call off a vote on a constitu
but in arlington, virginia, vice president biden said today's jobs report shows the economy is turning a corner, so it's critical to get a deal. >> there is a sense... there is a sense that if we can reach an- - act like adults and reach an agreement here on the fiscal cliff, the upside is much higher even than the downside is if we don't. >> sreenivasan: biden said the president is willing to consider what he called any serious offer. aides for the two sides were expected to...
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joe biden, who said it would have moral suasion. treaties are useless. what matters is force. the united states president says that something w will happen if they use them to do you think he cares if i.t. is written on a treaty? >> who said treaty? >> i am making a retroactive point. >> making a red line this is important. i am not sure what the red line is. and i am not sure how you bomb chemical weapons. >> you cannot. >> it comes down to what form will that intervention take? >> there is no use of a drone. if this ppens, you have to seize the weapons. >> what of the weapons fall at the hands -- >> i think the real issue is not that assad will l usehem, because he hangs if he does that. the world will t give them refuge in russia orlsewhere. the problem is if he is losing antril air bases, military bases, losing control on the ground. if this is tough ends up in the hands of jihadists we really have an issue, and that is where the u.s. and turkey and others are worried about seizing it before it happens. otherwise we have al qaeda with chemical -- >> i don't disagree. i thi
joe biden, who said it would have moral suasion. treaties are useless. what matters is force. the united states president says that something w will happen if they use them to do you think he cares if i.t. is written on a treaty? >> who said treaty? >> i am making a retroactive point. >> making a red line this is important. i am not sure what the red line is. and i am not sure how you bomb chemical weapons. >> you cannot. >> it comes down to what form will that...
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. >> biden. >> suppose she makes the decision and decides to run, you paralyze the democratic side. no donors are going to move, rightly so, because they want to find out -- >> and it completely influences the republican side because they're going to have to get somebody that can raise a bunch of money -- >> that's what mike allen said earlier. the only thing that matters is how do you go against her? how can you beat her? >> that's the only litmus test. >> mark halperin, you had said that last hour. the prism that republicans are viewing potential candidates, whether it's marco rubio or jeb bush or anybody else, can you beat hillary clinton? >> you know, i mean, it's just incredible. this is, i think, going to be my seventh presidential cycle. i've never seen a cycle like this setting up this way where she really is not just in her own party but in the race overall. i don't like, as you know, you tried to get me to talk about "game change 2." "game change 3," working title, the coronation. >> exactly. >> president obama has not been sworn in yet for his second term, and we're alrea
. >> biden. >> suppose she makes the decision and decides to run, you paralyze the democratic side. no donors are going to move, rightly so, because they want to find out -- >> and it completely influences the republican side because they're going to have to get somebody that can raise a bunch of money -- >> that's what mike allen said earlier. the only thing that matters is how do you go against her? how can you beat her? >> that's the only litmus test. >>...
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. >> vice president joe biden said a deal could be done in 15 minutes. he made the comments during a lunch with people the white house described as middle class. >> couple hundred bay area senior citizens made noise today about the fiscal cliff. [ music playing ] >> they held a flash mob in front of the federal building in downtown san francisco. they are rallying for social security, medicare and medicare. they support the president's plan. >>> another winner. what we know about the latest person to claim a huge power ball jackpot. >> the weather is looking nice. the warmest day of the weekend and when shower chances >>> parents of two students are complaining the school isn't doing enough to protect the children from bullying at cooper elementary school. one parent said her daughter is being tormented. her daughter wrote a suicide note. the mother accused the school of not addressing the problem. >> stop punishing the victim. it is a struggle to get her out of bed to go. >> school says they have a program in place to deal with bullies. >>> nielsen rele
. >> vice president joe biden said a deal could be done in 15 minutes. he made the comments during a lunch with people the white house described as middle class. >> couple hundred bay area senior citizens made noise today about the fiscal cliff. [ music playing ] >> they held a flash mob in front of the federal building in downtown san francisco. they are rallying for social security, medicare and medicare. they support the president's plan. >>> another winner. what...
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. >> vice president joe biden said a deal could be done in 15 minutes. he made the comments during a lunch with people the white house described as middle class. >> couple hundred bay area senior citizens made noise today about the fiscal cliff. [ music playing ] >> they held a flash mob in front of the federal building in downtown san francisco. they are rallying for social security, medicare and medicare. they support the president's plan. >>> another winner. what we know about the latest person to claim a huge power ball jackpot. >> the weather is looking nice. the warmest day of the weekend and when shower chances return in the five-day forecast. >> parents complain their daughters are being bullied. we will tell you what is happening at a middle school. [ laughter ] [ girl ] wow, you guys have it easy. i wish i had u-verse when i was your age. in my day, we didn't have these fancy wireless receivers. blah blah blah. if i had a sleepover, i couldn't just move the tv into the playroom. no. we had to watch movies in the den because that's where the tv
. >> vice president joe biden said a deal could be done in 15 minutes. he made the comments during a lunch with people the white house described as middle class. >> couple hundred bay area senior citizens made noise today about the fiscal cliff. [ music playing ] >> they held a flash mob in front of the federal building in downtown san francisco. they are rallying for social security, medicare and medicare. they support the president's plan. >>> another winner. what...
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joe biden took a picture with him thinking he's obama. he is the guy behind gangnam style is exposed for a song called "stare american" what which had him rap kill the bleeping yankees who ordered them to forture. kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers, kill them all slowly an painfully. now he says he is deeply sorry for how the lyrics could be interpreted so there is more than one way to interpret "kill them all"? psy would rap a different tune about the military. hi'd do the silly horse trot screaming "save me america" prodded by a commie bayonet. but i don't care. if i got upset every time a singer bashed america i'd suffer from upset paralysis. this is about the identity and the death of ours. if you placed yankees with any cooler identity other than scen color and sexual orientation he would have been tossed faster than beckel at a tea party. american is no longer exceptionm identity that unites us all, who cares? patriotism is like ribbon candy. only granny has it. it's not like it's hard to get in the white ho
joe biden took a picture with him thinking he's obama. he is the guy behind gangnam style is exposed for a song called "stare american" what which had him rap kill the bleeping yankees who ordered them to forture. kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers, kill them all slowly an painfully. now he says he is deeply sorry for how the lyrics could be interpreted so there is more than one way to interpret "kill them all"? psy would rap a different tune about...
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. >> vice president joe biden at lunch with middle class americans who will take a $2,000 hit if their tax cuts expire at the end of the year. >> this is no time to add any additional burden. >> while the white house is pushing congress to renew middle class tax cuts, the president says he won't take any deal that extends tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. honor of the pearl harbor ak this is the only night of te year the beacon will shine. hared their fi >> it would take 15 minutes by the time the decision is made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent the middle class tax cut. >> both are waiting to talk to president obama and house speaker boehner. here on capital here hill boehner says he is still waiting on the white house to respond to the latest proposal. >> this isn't a progress report because there is no progress to report. to >> republicans are offering to extend tax breaks for all americans, close tax loopholes and cut nearly $1.5 trillion in spending. >> i came out the day after election to put revenues on the tame to take a step toward the president to
. >> vice president joe biden at lunch with middle class americans who will take a $2,000 hit if their tax cuts expire at the end of the year. >> this is no time to add any additional burden. >> while the white house is pushing congress to renew middle class tax cuts, the president says he won't take any deal that extends tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. honor of the pearl harbor ak this is the only night of te year the beacon will shine. hared their fi >> it would...
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it's widely believed she freezes a potential democratic field that could include vice president joe biden, democratic strategist hilary rosen has her own prediction. >> i think she's going to run for president, but we're wasting our time speculating about it, she marches to her own drummer, she's not going to be rushed. >> have you talked to her at all about this, do you know if she's talked to political advisers about this? >> i have talked to her about it, and i've been shut down. >> reporter: clinton would have company. >> do you know any good diners in new hampshire or iowa. >> i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. >> reporter: all kidding aside, paul ryan and marco rubio already appear to be hitting on themes that seem to distance themselves from mitt romney's toc comments on people who receive government assistance. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. >> i've heard it suggested that the problem is, that the american people have changed. too many
it's widely believed she freezes a potential democratic field that could include vice president joe biden, democratic strategist hilary rosen has her own prediction. >> i think she's going to run for president, but we're wasting our time speculating about it, she marches to her own drummer, she's not going to be rushed. >> have you talked to her at all about this, do you know if she's talked to political advisers about this? >> i have talked to her about it, and i've been shut...
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. >> bill: joe biden went. mitt romney decided he should go. >> he showed up in la jolla, california. he bought all kinds of things, most made in china. he bought paper plates, dixie cups wrapping paper v8 juice drinks pretzel snacks, bisquick and bottled water. he also got a model car which will be a gift for one of his grandkids made by the mysto company. >> bill: they've got a car elevator! >> good point. tmz got the run-down of what he bought. they also reached out to mysto the people who make the toy cars. none of their products are made in america. they're all made in china. >> bill: evan, you've reported, now we know from john sununu echoing mitt romney that he's in la jolla and barack obama is in the white house because obama depended on people who were dependent on government. it is just the handout, the takers are the ones who elected barack obama. >> right. the gifts argument. i think there has been a split on the language of this, whether or not the actual ideals of it. the language, split since rom
. >> bill: joe biden went. mitt romney decided he should go. >> he showed up in la jolla, california. he bought all kinds of things, most made in china. he bought paper plates, dixie cups wrapping paper v8 juice drinks pretzel snacks, bisquick and bottled water. he also got a model car which will be a gift for one of his grandkids made by the mysto company. >> bill: they've got a car elevator! >> good point. tmz got the run-down of what he bought. they also reached out...
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as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad and deep base including vice president biden, who's done a terrific job in his capacity as the second in command, but also, we have governors. a lot of diversity. duval patrick and we can all look as governor cuomo, you have elizabeth warren that might be considered presidential. so i don't want to throw all our eggs in one basket because there are so many wonderful people. martin o'malley, for example, the governor of colorado. like the republicans, this will be a large field of candidates, but there's fo question if secretary of state hillary clinton decided to throw her gloves into the race, game on. >> she got a lot of competition. >> david frum, you think the republican party's going to have the strongest field it's had in maybe a generation? >> i thought 2008 was the strongest the republican party has had in a long time and where did it get us? i think what we're going to see now is a lot of recruitment from the governors. it was very similar to see paul ryan and marco rubio on that stage. very popular with the washington c
as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad and deep base including vice president biden, who's done a terrific job in his capacity as the second in command, but also, we have governors. a lot of diversity. duval patrick and we can all look as governor cuomo, you have elizabeth warren that might be considered presidential. so i don't want to throw all our eggs in one basket because there are so many wonderful people. martin o'malley, for example, the governor of colorado. like the...
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vice president joe biden on hand for the game. army's trent steelman keeps it on the option and scores. army led 13-10 with less than five minutes to play but here come the mids. keenan reynolds scores, giving navy a 17-13 lead. army on the navy 14-yard line trying for the winning touchdown but the handoff is botched. navy recovers. and the mids come away with a 17-13 win to capture the commander-in-chief trophy. to college basketball, the terps hosting south carolina state. the terps were rolling from start to finish. pretty bounce pass, howard to mitchell for the two points. later, this time going up top to alex len. len, the only player in double figures with 13. another alley-oop here, this time it's dez wells on the receiving end. and later seth allen showing the outside touch, draining the three-pointer. the terps led by 13 at the break and won 61-46, their eighth straight victory. to verizon center in d.c. where pat scary and the towson tigers were facing georgetown. great tip ahead to greg whittington ahead of the pack and
vice president joe biden on hand for the game. army's trent steelman keeps it on the option and scores. army led 13-10 with less than five minutes to play but here come the mids. keenan reynolds scores, giving navy a 17-13 lead. army on the navy 14-yard line trying for the winning touchdown but the handoff is botched. navy recovers. and the mids come away with a 17-13 win to capture the commander-in-chief trophy. to college basketball, the terps hosting south carolina state. the terps were...
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maybe eric cantor and vice president joe biden may be working together to reauthorize the violence against women act. >> yes. >> are you bullish or bearish? >> i'm hopeful. i got to say. i actually think there is an understanding of how important it is to get that done. let's be hopeful there. and who knows, alex. maybe that's an opening to a better day for women in the republican party. >> karen finney, you get tonight's last word. thank you for ending on a high note, my friend. >> take care. >> be sure to join me for "now" at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific, weekdays right here on msnbc. "the ed show" is up next. "hardball" starts right now. >>> gay marriage. an american right? let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start with this. today the united states supreme court said it would take up the issue of same-sex marriage. this is an astounding moment in american history and in the march of rights that began in philadelphia in the last quarter of the 18th century and continues through this first quarter of the 21st. is it constitutional for
maybe eric cantor and vice president joe biden may be working together to reauthorize the violence against women act. >> yes. >> are you bullish or bearish? >> i'm hopeful. i got to say. i actually think there is an understanding of how important it is to get that done. let's be hopeful there. and who knows, alex. maybe that's an opening to a better day for women in the republican party. >> karen finney, you get tonight's last word. thank you for ending on a high note,...
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joe biden saying on friday, he wasn't going to budge. the white house wasn't going to budge on whether the rates should be increased. how much? that may be negotiable. john. >> any sense of what's next? more meetings planned? >> we don't know what's next. these are the developments we'll follow this week. congress set to go on vacation at the end of the week. the expectation is if this doesn't get wrapped up, congress isn't going anywhere, and there will be a lot of folks pulling up in washington. >> might be a good idea to delay the vacation a little bit if they don't get the job done. brianna keilar in washington, nice to see you this morning. >>> top cnn trends on cnn.com. the music world is mourning jenni rivera. she died when her leer jet went down. authorities spotted the wreckage in nuevo leon. there were no survivors. >>> josh brent out of jail on $500,000 bond. investigators believe he was driving drunk when his mercedes flipped and caught fire. the practice squad linebacker jerry brown died in that crash. his miami states pulli
joe biden saying on friday, he wasn't going to budge. the white house wasn't going to budge on whether the rates should be increased. how much? that may be negotiable. john. >> any sense of what's next? more meetings planned? >> we don't know what's next. these are the developments we'll follow this week. congress set to go on vacation at the end of the week. the expectation is if this doesn't get wrapped up, congress isn't going anywhere, and there will be a lot of folks pulling up...
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vice-president biden gets things underway with a coin toss and navy would open up the scoring, not to be outdone, army comes right back, and the quarterback with the 11 yard up the middle keeper there. and just out to the fourth. and navy down three, they go ahead with four minutes to go. and then two minutes left and as if things weren't tight enough. army with the winning score and they hand off and navy recovers with a 17-13 win and so broken up, crying, he had to be consoled by four star general, and navy has now beaten army. and you thought that college football was over for the year. >> what a great event. i live in phillies and friday nights in the city is filled with people and army thought they had it, but 11 straight. >> clayton: come on, army. let's check in with maria in for rick. >> good morning, everyone, we'll see a big shift in the weather pattern we've seen the last several weeks, very mild across the country and temperatures above average and enjoying basically very mild conditions for late fall and also early december, but a reality check is in store for many of us,
vice-president biden gets things underway with a coin toss and navy would open up the scoring, not to be outdone, army comes right back, and the quarterback with the 11 yard up the middle keeper there. and just out to the fourth. and navy down three, they go ahead with four minutes to go. and then two minutes left and as if things weren't tight enough. army with the winning score and they hand off and navy recovers with a 17-13 win and so broken up, crying, he had to be consoled by four star...
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when asked if a middle ground could be found, both boehner and biden showed some wiggle room. >> the top brackets have to go up. it's not a negotiable issue. theoretically we can negotiate how far up. >> reporter: at another local restaurant, the owner has seen enough of washington gridlock. >> i wish those lawmakers would get their [ bleep ] together and get it done and try to help everybody. it would be good if they could do it before the holidays are over. >> reporter: craig, as someone who spent some time in river city here in washington, i wanted to show you this. these are the inaugural stands right on pennsylvania avenue, right in front of the white house. i'm looking at them and listening to them right now. they've been going up pretty steadily. these guys work around the clock. january 21st, the president is going to be marching past the white house to live here for another four years. now, about the fiscal cliff, john boehner's in town. that's relatively rare for him to stay in town on the weekend. the president was here, but there were meetings yesterday. nancy pelosi came
when asked if a middle ground could be found, both boehner and biden showed some wiggle room. >> the top brackets have to go up. it's not a negotiable issue. theoretically we can negotiate how far up. >> reporter: at another local restaurant, the owner has seen enough of washington gridlock. >> i wish those lawmakers would get their [ bleep ] together and get it done and try to help everybody. it would be good if they could do it before the holidays are over. >>...
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one of the good things about a choice when you had bill clinton pick al gore, when you had obama pick biden even when you had bush and cheney, they all, in their own way had their chemistry. but they also bring something to a ticket. or more important they do no harm. so they don't change the their at this. they don't change the essence of the message. so when cheney was picked, people might have said is he picking his daddy's friend or someone so old to help him. those are -- that could slap down a candidate but it doesn't change your whole thrust of your main selling point which was for romney, i could be a better steward of the economy than obama. so when -- you evaluate what happened yes so it was a great chemistry. >> bill: right. but politically -- again, it changed the focus of the campaign and then what did -- what did paul ryan bring? he didn't bring wisconsin. so you ended up with two candidates. had born in or lived in and paul ryan couldn't deliver either. >> here's the other thing. i think this is why these debriefs are constructive because it is hard to get this information at
one of the good things about a choice when you had bill clinton pick al gore, when you had obama pick biden even when you had bush and cheney, they all, in their own way had their chemistry. but they also bring something to a ticket. or more important they do no harm. so they don't change the their at this. they don't change the essence of the message. so when cheney was picked, people might have said is he picking his daddy's friend or someone so old to help him. those are -- that could slap...